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to see more about that as my code guide

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connections co dot UK and Gary's well

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known in the travelling world he send

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lots of tours lots of major tours all

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will have some major authors on this

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of the Renly Chateau and therefore the

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disk lozini so we'll be talking with

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surprises Gary will be doing his thing

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real talent at some of these sacred

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sites so I'll keep you posted if you're

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interested in knowing about it before we

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get the itinerary out there please send

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facebook alright without any further

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delay I'd like to get right into

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tonight's show because I have a guest

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that I'm so interested to speak with we

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informative and I wanted to save some of

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my questions for the show today because

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I had a million of them yesterday and

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but we're going to get right into it

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with me tonight is author Peter moon

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Peter thank you so much oh you're

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welcome it's nice to be here with you

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well I really appreciate it in many of

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you'll know Peter moon by name and some

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of you know him personally but through

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the montauk project and a book that he

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and Preston Nichols wrote about that as

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well as as other books but we're also

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going to talk about his new book the

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white fat which is very very interesting

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and there's a real story a real white

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bat story to go along with that so we'll

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we'll get into that but Peter would you

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share some of your background with us so

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sort of just sort of set the stage sure

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i'm primarily known for co-authoring the

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book the montauk project experiments in

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time with preston nichols which was

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company sky books and that's how I got

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so-called paranormal and that book the

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investigation of the Montauk Project

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which was a series of mind-control

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experiments where they were able to

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app a time and effect time travel in

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primarily in the 1970s on Montauk Point

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Long Island I have began to investigate

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that project and that has resulted in a

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plethora of other books on the subject

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of sequels to at Montauk revisited

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pyramids of Montauk and also

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investigating the Nazi connection that

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took place at Montauk in a book called

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the Black Sun and there have been

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several others and that's primarily what

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I've known for oh this sounds like an

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interesting one I'm going to have to get

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that one the Nazi connection i mean the

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Nazis were so interesting in some of

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their endeavors now i don't know what

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their connection was to Montauk it was

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probably pretty dark but certainly their

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interest in sacred items and secret

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societies and bloodline families and

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things like that Wu was of interest to

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me how did they fit into the Montauk

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and I first came across it when I sat in

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a lecture the president Nichols was

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giving with the Duncan Cameron one of

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the the primary Montauk psychic and al

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bielek who was in the audience that

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night he was also involved in the

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Montauk Project and the Philadelphia

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there were Nazis all over Montauk and

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Nazis here Nazis there as I began to and

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this was part of the lore of the Montauk

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Project was the Nazi connection well as

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had the biggest stronghold outside of

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Germany biggest presence in Long Island

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in a town called Yaphank Long Island and

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that is Right adjacent to brookhaven

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national laboratories which also has

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many German scientists that were

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repatriated after World War two some of

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you know his project paper clip now the

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Nazis had a strong interest in Montauk

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built tunnels out there

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he but Kaiser Wilhelm was building

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tunnels this is part of the pan Germanic

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movement that started after Otto von

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Bismarck and the second Reich which was

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to make Germany a world empire this way

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before Hitler so they were building and

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all over across the world they had their

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little secret projects and one of them

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was at Montauk and there are a series of

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tunnels that are very ancient and then

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Kaiser Wilhelm had his little faction

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out there at Montauk and then as far as

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Long Island went Yaphank Long Island

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they had a place in yep bank called

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German gardens where you had in camp

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Siegfried which was not far from German

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Hitler Boulevard so street named after

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Goebbels really yes yes and the only a

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street that's left it has a German

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vestige is Schiller who was a poet they

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don't they got rid of all the the Hitler

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and Goebbels stuff and there have been

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legal battles in suffolk county long

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island to remove this from the history

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and saying that it never was this way of

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course they have not won that battle so

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the history as it stands now is that

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those indeed those streets did exist at

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that time as those streets Hitler

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it's a very small little neighborhood

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street but to be in German gardens you

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had to be German until about someone in

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the 1980s when it was just racially

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discriminatory that you know the other

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people could live there when I began to

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investigate I took signs that said

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pictures of scientists in camp Siegfried

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put it in my book the Black Sun and boy

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did they remove that sign of camp secret

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real fast it's almost as if they did not

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is known and right in this area of camp

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Siegfried uh they might have put the

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sign back up I don't know but there was

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a big bavarian house meeting house and

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right outside there was a grass field

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which you could play soccer on it

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wouldn't be a full soccer field but you

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could have a game out there and play

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soccer it's that big and they used to do

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the Nazi goose stepping out there in in

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the 1930s and there were even meetings

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in this I found out from one of the

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Montauk Indians that she used to write

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the reports to the house on American

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Activities Committee that would go go

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there she would write through the police

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she worked for the police and she said

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they had meetings there and they were

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called bond meetings bo in meetings now

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that was a very mysterious connection to

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the Nazis because Carl house over was a

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bond priest and Carl house over was the

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mentor of Rudolf Hess and to an extent

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Adolf Hitler he was the occult mentor

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and he was the one that brought the the

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axis the and he was other the Japanese

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into the axis because he was spoke

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Japanese and he had connections with

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Tibet and with the the Japanese and with

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the the Black Dragon Society and whatnot

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of those occult societies in the in Asia

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bond priest so here in the 30s and even

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meetings which were Aryan type meetings

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where you would have people wearing the

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regalia of the Tibetan priest which is

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what they were in the KKK the regalia of

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Tibet it's a mimicry so this is the this

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is the avenue that I was opening up in

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this book the Black Sun mock Montauk's

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nazi tibetan connection which is

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available on amazon and through

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lightning soon I but its interim sky

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books as well but the

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connection was something that the Nazis

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were very fascinated with and I found

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elements connecting it to montauk of

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being that the ancient Tibetans were

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known as the bond and before they were

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known as the bond they were known as

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naman m.o.n and you see this word Mon

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transmogrifying into words like

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Manchuria Mongol so these are an ancient

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ancient people and these are the threads

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that I was discovering as I research the

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connection between the from the Nazis in

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montauk of course it gets esoteric and

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corresponds with some of the interesting

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things you've seen with the Ark of the

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Covenant and in the movies and whatnot

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sure yeah yeah now someone in the

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chatroom neutron is asking is the name

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Ostara the movement that you're talking

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about this entry Nazi movement Ostara

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was a publication as I recall an

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astrological publication in early a pre

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Nazi Germany man lighting- there might

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have been a group called Ostara but what

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what was really significant about that

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time period was the real society again

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all right a society started by Karl

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house over now if you read the standard

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plebeian history on the Nazis in the

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real society they will not say that Karl

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house over is the head of it I only say

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this to you based upon what I learned

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from my contacts in Germany the German

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sources because the Germans like the

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montauk project and they published the

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montauk project and I have enjoyed

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certain contacts with these people my

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fish way he started he was a member of

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the Black Sun and there was their secret

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society one of the most secret societies

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and it's on offense on two societies at

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least the Brill society and the Thule

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society THU le some

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times people mispronounce it fool but it

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was known and by the Germans is the

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Thule society and after Tully which was

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the capital city according to lore of

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Hyperborean now the land beyond the

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polls now I've since discovered that

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Hyperborea is not a land beyond the pole

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such as they presented it or thought it

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was hyper Borya to the Greeks referred

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to the land north of the Danube and then

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land north of the Danube is Romania and

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more specifically Hyperborea referred to

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the land the core of hyperborean was

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beyond the Carpathians which is the land

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we know now as Transylvania and that's a

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hole that the Nazis missed the boat they

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did get their oil from the Romanian

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fields but they were they missed the

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boat on the esotericism of what they

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were really looking for by it was height

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right in front of their face it was in

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their national possession but they

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didn't understand Transylvania they were

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repelled from there by the energies that

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exist there to this very day but that's

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that's another story which brings us

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more in fast forward with into my more

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recent work but you're so but the the

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Thule society in the real society and

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the Brill Society was a founded on the

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abilities of different women who were

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able to serve as trans mediums and they

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would basically channel UFO technology

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or flying saucer technology and this

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became the foundation of the German

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flying saucer technology now in this

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book the Black Sun was published in 1997

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it was very controversial it included

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the photographs of some of these crafts

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and what this room now I was not the

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person is this a project paper clip

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we're talking about right it's not

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project paper clip project paper clip is

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when the Nazi scientists were taken

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smuggled out of Nazi Germany

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and brought to America to work on very

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that's right Nazi technology for ya yes

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that's the repatriation of the Nazi

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scientists that were working such as

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Verner von Braun was the poster boy for

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that and they were worked eventually on

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the American space program and some

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would say sabotaged it and kept it in

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check but they were that was the nuts

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that was that project paper clip the

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real society I mean those some of those

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people were obviously members of the

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royal society but they were born the

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technological and the core of the burl

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society where the mediums and the people

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Rudolf Hess was a financier of the real

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society he raised the money for it and

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there was publications in a magazine I

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think it was called Atlantis or the

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equivalent thereof in the German

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language and net has used to lecture on

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UFO technology he was quite

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knowledgeable and in the latter days of

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his life in Spandau prison he would get

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detailed technical write-ups and

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information from the German scientists

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who respected his knowledge his

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technical knowledge although he wasn't a

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scientist per se he grew up in a

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merchant family and he he was the

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financier of the Nazi Party and that was

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part of the reason he was kept alive and

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not only kept alive but not allowed to

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come out because he was a signatory and

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newer all the Nazi funds were so he he

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and those funds had to be sequestered

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from the German interest by the British

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nationals and I wrote about this in a

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book called Spandau mystery which is a

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novel based upon a history the actual

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history of Rudolph has General Patton

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General Patton discovering the

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technology of the Nazis and that's part

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of the reason he was silenced or the

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main reason he was silence of course

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some of the novel is specular

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it's based upon historical data because

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I couldn't get it all the relevant

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truths so I've done a lot of delving

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into the Germans and I've even spoken

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there in Bavaria to a group of Germans

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which was a very enjoyable experience

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for me great now the montauk project was

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that primarily I know it was sort of a

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mind control but I was the largest part

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of it the time travel aspect or were

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there other things that they were doing

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I I know that there was some

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experimentation I believe in

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teleportation which seems sort of

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related well he's like yes the

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time-travel happened it was one of the

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later developments and as you begin to

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investigate anything if you're on a true

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path of discovery you you learn more you

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have unexpected new things break out

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that you can learn or understand that

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montauk project the roots of the montauk

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project and the philadelphia experiment

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which was a result of combined efforts

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of German and American efforts to create

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a worship that would become invisible of

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course the Germans were not involved in

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the latter part of the experiment in the

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40s all there are some stories where the

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Germans do fit into it but primarily it

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was done under the auspices a bit under

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the umbrella of the United States Navy

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and this was to make a worship appear

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invisible to radar and when it did

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appear invisible to radar was subjected

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to radio frequencies which affected the

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mind of men and they they went sploo II

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so there's a whole human factor study on

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human beings that was primarily done

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after the war had calmed down and it was

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done at Brookhaven labs where some of

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the sailors who were injured were taken

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to camp Upton it was a convalescent

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hospital the Navy camp

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upton was this world war one outpost in

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yaphank Irving Berlin wrote a song about

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it because he was stationed there but

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then what was camp Upton became

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Brookhaven National Laboratory the

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premier nuclear research facility in the

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United States and it is currently under

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the Department of Energy it used to be

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run by allied universities or a name

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like that it was a quasi-government

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agency but it was a bunch of University

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scientists and whatnot and it was a very

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high secure area and they also got the

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rights to victor shall burgers

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technology shall burger was the

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scientist behind so much of the

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technology I can't delineate what his

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role with the Brill Society was if any

436
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and the technology that was coming out

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of the rail girls but he was they got

438
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his patents and whatnot in brookhaven

439
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labs I believed the guys the last name

440
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was Donner who did it it's in the book

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the Black Sun and but the the Brookhaven

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was a very strong German component as

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they say right next door with the German

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science group there a research group

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that was also taking the work of the

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Nazis from the captured German documents

447
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that angel involved the work of Josef

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Mengele too many was you're using the

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studies of twins the studies of mind

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control the studies of human sexuality

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and they also use the studies of Wilhelm

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Reich the thing he was an Austrian

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scientist who's an Austrian psychiatrist

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and he was a medical doctor and he

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developed orgone therapy and he was

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quite extreme in what he discovered but

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they were using his technology they were

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using all of this to penetrate the mind

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of man study the mind of man to hook it

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up to the computers of the day

461
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early computers of the day and to enable

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and to amp up the thoughts of people the

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thoughts of subjects so that it could

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actually read out on a computer screen

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and turn out on a computer this was very

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early improved technology that was using

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vacuum tubes as well in connection with

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the radio frequency but it developed

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over a period of years in the 50s to the

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point where they became very effective

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at my control and now I understand the

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connection you know of studying twins

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because I would imagine it has something

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to do with that sort of mind sharing

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things that twins kind of do that

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intuitiveness about each other feeling

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this each other's pain knowing what the

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other person is going to say that sort

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of thing but what it added human

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sexuality come into that whole mind

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control thing I mean I guess in some

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ways it's kind of obvious but I just

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wonder well the the sexual energy is

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creational energy it's the it's the

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energy of creation literally creation

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that's how you create well yeah

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absolutely but it is it is a very

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powerful energy as well well I I guess

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in the way that it's used in you know

490
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some ritual and things of that nature

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that might have been a part of what they

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were looking at because that that using

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sex in a ritual I guess what is that

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called the oh goodness I can't remember

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the terms chua magic is one term yep

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coined more or less by Aleister Crowley

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and there was also isn't there something

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called harrows gamos or something like

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that I don't know that term the Wickham

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the whole foundation of Wicca is based

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upon sexual magic and this is not a new

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idea but if you look at the Christian

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theology it is based upon one of the

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highest form

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of sexual magic which is aspire which

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cult magicians aspire to this is the the

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seed of in the Christian theology the

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divine father having facilitating the

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what's called the immaculate conception

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of the Virgin Mary a virgin birth where

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he basically incarnate seeeeee himself

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in the percentage of a son through a

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female by using something other than

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sexual intercourse and but this is a

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form of sexual magic is it's this is the

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most supreme idealized creation in the

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Christian theology which is as I say

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aspired to buy other magicians that's

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considered a and magicians who aren't

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Christian at all but that is so

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sexuality and the or the mimicry of it

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is considered a very potent form of

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psychic potential and power so when you

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say when you begin to play with these

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energies in the East Asia they know it

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is tantra which is also known as the

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yoga of sex and that's yoga is Union and

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it is the harnessing yoga also means

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yoke which is like you knew you put the

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yoke on a lot of ox and you control it

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it's a matter of achieving Union and

532
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controlling energies so that you can

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achieve a divine union with the divinity

534
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in so this in the Tibetan tradition this

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equates to being sublimated into certain

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powers of influence and this is I say

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this is not news

538
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what was a particular about Montauk is

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they were playing with these energies

540
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and they were seeking to use them

541
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towards their advantage and they were

542
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using him and mixing them with other

543
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:06,920
disciplines anything that was a cult

544
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:10,010
anything that where people could

545
00:28:15,130 --> 00:28:12,890
manifest power and influence because

546
00:28:19,870 --> 00:28:15,140
this is also military power and

547
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:19,880
influence as well got it got it we're

548
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:21,290
going to take a break really think by

549
00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:23,900
the way listeners it was heroes gamos

550
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:26,750
that I was referring to which is a great

551
00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:32,090
term and it is a ritual where people it

552
00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:34,220
doesn't presuppose that the ear and

553
00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:36,260
actually perform the sex act but it

554
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:38,750
could be acted out symbolically or it

555
00:28:43,630 --> 00:28:41,270
could be acted out for real but it's you

556
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:43,640
know supposes that people are sort of

557
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:47,390
representing deities I am talking about

558
00:28:51,550 --> 00:28:50,480
nothing yeah yeah I'm sure you do any

559
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:51,560
out we're going to take a quick break

560
00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:53,480
we're talking with Peter moon we're

561
00:28:57,220 --> 00:28:55,430
talking about time travel we're talking

562
00:28:59,380 --> 00:28:57,230
about sex and we're talking about

563
00:29:05,320 --> 00:28:59,390
everything so we'll be right back hang

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to night vision radio I'm your host

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00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:54,309
Renee Barnett my guest tonight is Peter

613
00:33:00,150 --> 00:32:56,860
moon he's the author or co-author of

614
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:00,160
montauk project and the author of the

615
00:33:04,980 --> 00:33:03,250
white bat his most recent book we've

616
00:33:11,299 --> 00:33:04,990
been talking about the Montauk Project

617
00:33:14,490 --> 00:33:11,309
and some Nazi involvement there and also

618
00:33:17,549 --> 00:33:14,500
sort of some what I would term you know

619
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:17,559
sort of metaphysical aspects to the

620
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:20,170
whole thing now when we're talking about

621
00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:22,510
time travel are we talking about

622
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:25,000
mechanics or are we talking about

623
00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:29,650
metaphysics or mind or what are what are

624
00:33:35,970 --> 00:33:32,800
we talking about very good question it's

625
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:35,980
a very good question because the one

626
00:33:43,049 --> 00:33:39,970
thing is the word metaphysics which is a

627
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:43,059
word that has not never been very to

628
00:33:48,930 --> 00:33:44,730
well understood but of course it means

629
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:48,940
meta above physics it's a senior to

630
00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:53,860
physics which the very etymology of the

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00:33:59,460 --> 00:33:56,140
word suggests that there is something

632
00:34:01,950 --> 00:33:59,470
superior to the physical world itself so

633
00:34:03,510 --> 00:34:01,960
it's when you when a word comes about

634
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:03,520
there's there's a reason that somebody

635
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,610
made a word you can't have a word

636
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:08,560
without a concept so there's the concept

637
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:10,330
that this above something about physics

638
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:14,500
when you talk about a time-travel you

639
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:22,139
are putting a affectation or a

640
00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:25,690
circumstance that is senior to the

641
00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:29,230
physical universe as we know it now what

642
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:31,720
they were doing at Montauk was playing

643
00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:34,629
with the mind they were investigating

644
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:36,820
the mind they were experimenting with

645
00:34:44,190 --> 00:34:40,270
the mind and the way time travel

646
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:44,200
research developed there was by trying

647
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:47,530
to manifest objects and then they would

648
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:49,810
manifest but they would have manifest

649
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:52,510
out of the congruence of time so this

650
00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:56,770
began a window into time so if I want

651
00:35:02,040 --> 00:34:57,340
you to

652
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:02,050
to think of a a blue bottle and the blue

653
00:35:08,910 --> 00:35:05,740
bottle appears but maybe it didn't

654
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:08,920
appear you know maybe it appeared two

655
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:11,140
days after the experiment or maybe it

656
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:16,020
appeared in the past this was the this

657
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:18,730
was a window into time and of course

658
00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:22,270
when you have one bit of harness one bit

659
00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:26,440
of energy on something you then begin to

660
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:30,220
explore it and exploit it and and so

661
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:34,900
this according to the legends traditions

662
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:38,590
and history historical accounts that

663
00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:41,110
this is indeed what happened is that the

664
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:45,060
doors were open to other periods of time

665
00:35:58,140 --> 00:35:50,410
we know from mathematics that this is

666
00:36:01,380 --> 00:35:58,150
not implausible hmm and when you know

667
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:01,390
the experimentation was being done at

668
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:07,810
Montauk how were they affecting or were

669
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:10,980
they attempting to affect time travel

670
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,280
how were they yeah how did they I mean

671
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:17,640
did they have a time machine did they

672
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:22,240
just experiment with people's minds okay

673
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:26,830
they had a they had a psychic subject

674
00:36:32,180 --> 00:36:30,370
Duncan Cameron who was subjected to put

675
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:32,190
in what was called the Montauk chair and

676
00:36:43,950 --> 00:36:40,330
he had a series or set of radio

677
00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:43,960
receivers crystal receivers have to

678
00:36:49,740 --> 00:36:46,750
understand that radios are all based

679
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:49,750
upon crystal technology yes and and they

680
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:53,200
would pick up his thoughts they would

681
00:36:59,730 --> 00:36:55,930
amplify his thoughts the mechanics and

682
00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:59,740
machinery of this generally mechanics

683
00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:01,500
and

684
00:37:07,330 --> 00:37:04,350
what not is in the book the montauk

685
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:07,340
project experiments of time this is the

686
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:10,050
language of Preston Nichols which I was

687
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:13,250
able to decipher and help him

688
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:15,540
communicate in a more simple English of

689
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:18,360
what was going on there and you know

690
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:21,350
amping up somebody's thoughts and

691
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,510
broadcasting it out a transmitter which

692
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:26,460
is a very powerful transmitter now what

693
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:28,350
initially what had happened with these

694
00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:30,420
broadcasts it would affect the moves of

695
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:33,300
people and animals in the area and you

696
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:37,640
had animals going wacko you had deer

697
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,440
charging the city crashing into one

698
00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:42,720
window in a place called sala VARs where

699
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:47,100
they had the picture mural of a deer

700
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:48,810
crashing into the window it was a famous

701
00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:51,420
incident that happened there one was

702
00:37:56,330 --> 00:37:53,390
reported crashed into a phone booth and

703
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:56,340
you had people acting wacky out there

704
00:38:01,850 --> 00:37:58,290
that people still out act wacky out

705
00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:01,860
there to this day at Montauk hmm it's a

706
00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:05,220
wacky place it's a beautiful place it's

707
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:09,540
uh but the people there and what do you

708
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:11,370
what do you think they're still affected

709
00:38:17,090 --> 00:38:13,530
is there some kind of residual energy

710
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:17,100
there or something well Montauk and this

711
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:19,260
gets into the third book pyramids of

712
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:22,290
montage because I found out through all

713
00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:25,290
of my investigations and conditions with

714
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:27,360
result plot of synchronicity if there

715
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:30,930
were pyramids at that point it was a one

716
00:38:35,150 --> 00:38:33,240
ton point in time and I found a picture

717
00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:35,160
of them but there was no explanation I

718
00:38:39,350 --> 00:38:37,230
finally found a woman in the Montauk

719
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:39,360
fried the tribe that had been declared

720
00:38:42,830 --> 00:38:41,130
extinct who told me that her grandfather

721
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:42,840
knew about those pyramids and he used to

722
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,910
talk about them and the days or rituals

723
00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:47,280
an underground chamber in those pyramids

724
00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:52,350
and they this was a sacred spot of the

725
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:54,630
family name of the Montauk Indians the

726
00:38:59,960 --> 00:38:56,310
Royal they were the Royal tribe of Long

727
00:39:05,030 --> 00:38:59,970
Island and some say well tribal America

728
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:05,040
and which was according to at least one

729
00:39:11,330 --> 00:39:07,170
source was known as Montauk itself at

730
00:39:14,589 --> 00:39:11,340
one point but the entire North America

731
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,599
but Long Island was

732
00:39:18,999 --> 00:39:16,400
they were the Royal tribe and they were

733
00:39:21,099 --> 00:39:19,009
known as the Pharaohs the Pharaohs and

734
00:39:24,190 --> 00:39:21,109
so there was a connection to Egypt the

735
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,200
shaman of the tribe sure on a red bird

736
00:39:28,839 --> 00:39:27,440
Jackson told me that she had seen in a

737
00:39:32,259 --> 00:39:28,849
book when she was young she was taught

738
00:39:35,969 --> 00:39:32,269
that they had come from Egypt so there

739
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:35,979
is uh this was a very sacred spot

740
00:39:41,769 --> 00:39:38,930
according and it Montauk isn't is a

741
00:39:44,410 --> 00:39:41,779
mount it's not part of Long Island it

742
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:44,420
was known as an island there's an

743
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:49,609
isthmus an isthmus of east of amagansett

744
00:39:58,930 --> 00:39:52,609
and that isthmus has since been filled

745
00:40:00,910 --> 00:39:58,940
in and it's a it's just like one like

746
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:00,920
one continue continuous stream of land

747
00:40:07,630 --> 00:40:04,190
but it was originally an island and it's

748
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:07,640
on the top of a mountain now now do you

749
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:09,650
think there's something particular about

750
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:14,180
the geography or the geophysics of that

751
00:40:21,009 --> 00:40:17,930
area do you think that there are tell

752
00:40:23,319 --> 00:40:21,019
your occurrence there or as Carol in the

753
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:23,329
chat room as asked you know is it on

754
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:25,430
light lines are they is there any

755
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:28,450
involvement like that oh yes yes and

756
00:40:34,779 --> 00:40:31,609
Long Island was was very strong in

757
00:40:37,029 --> 00:40:34,789
telluric energy lines this is like Tesla

758
00:40:42,029 --> 00:40:37,039
came to Long Island to build his tower

759
00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:42,039
the Wardenclyffe tower which is uh

760
00:40:46,839 --> 00:40:44,869
probably about an hour away from Montauk

761
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:46,849
on the North Shore of Long Island and

762
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:49,150
there's a huge underground tunnel system

763
00:40:56,019 --> 00:40:54,410
where that is which became well didn't

764
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,029
become exactly the shore of nuclear

765
00:41:00,519 --> 00:40:58,640
power plant which is near there so Tesla

766
00:41:03,459 --> 00:41:00,529
has a whole Lab I think somebody has

767
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:03,469
purchased to turn it into a historical

768
00:41:09,729 --> 00:41:07,160
landmark yes that's right yeah I know it

769
00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:09,739
was up for sale a couple of years ago I

770
00:41:15,759 --> 00:41:13,190
did some filming out there for a show

771
00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:15,769
that I worked on a conspiracy theory

772
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:20,630
with jesse ventura we did a piece on

773
00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:25,130
Tesla so that's a real interesting place

774
00:41:30,910 --> 00:41:27,220
there as well

775
00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:30,920
now is there a Tesla connection to all

776
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:33,260
this is there a Tesla time-travel

777
00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:38,089
connection well Tesla is according to

778
00:41:44,859 --> 00:41:43,670
the core story was the original

779
00:41:47,170 --> 00:41:44,869
scientist who was putting the

780
00:41:50,829 --> 00:41:47,180
Philadelphia Experiment together and

781
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:50,839
this is in the 30s and the late 30s

782
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:53,390
early 40s and he bowed out of the

783
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:55,790
experiment due to its he knew that it

784
00:42:07,420 --> 00:41:58,450
would be disastrous to human beings and

785
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:07,430
tech Tesla died 43 before the experiment

786
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:12,170
took place it wasn't the directorship of

787
00:42:20,829 --> 00:42:14,300
the experiment was turned over to John

788
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:20,839
von Neumann and Tesla Tesla was Tesla

789
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:23,390
had a lot of issues with the American

790
00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:26,089
governments colleagues he was an

791
00:42:31,690 --> 00:42:29,900
understatement and the person you can

792
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:31,700
talk to about that as Douglas Dietrich

793
00:42:38,109 --> 00:42:35,119
because he gave all of his technology to

794
00:42:40,690 --> 00:42:38,119
his native country which was then

795
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:40,700
Yugoslavia he's Croatian Croatia became

796
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:45,010
a part of Yugoslavia and this big at the

797
00:42:51,099 --> 00:42:48,770
secret Yugoslavian space program which

798
00:42:53,770 --> 00:42:51,109
Dietrich Douglas Dietrich talks about

799
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,780
that on one of his lectures which is

800
00:42:59,530 --> 00:42:56,480
utterly fascinating he invited why was

801
00:43:02,170 --> 00:42:59,540
Yugoslavia able to stand so strong

802
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:02,180
against the Soviet Union and be such an

803
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:05,359
outcast in the Communist world but yet

804
00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:09,950
maintain its position so that's that's

805
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:13,849
Tesla technology but so Tesla was

806
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:18,740
involved in death rays part of what's

807
00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:24,470
become harp and he was vilified as an

808
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:26,420
evil scientist in the superman cartoons

809
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:28,760
they used to have Tesla that evolved

810
00:43:31,660 --> 00:43:30,530
later into lex luthor they got off the

811
00:43:35,980 --> 00:43:31,670
Tesla bandwagon

812
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:35,990
and there's even a movie where Bela

813
00:43:42,250 --> 00:43:39,950
Lugosi plays a vampire called Tesla this

814
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:42,260
is that he was being vilified in this

815
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:46,160
period of early World War two oh he was

816
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:48,410
and I mean one of his big detractors was

817
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:53,210
Thomas Edison I I was hearing a I guess

818
00:43:58,030 --> 00:43:55,910
there's a book that's been written about

819
00:44:03,309 --> 00:43:58,040
Tesla that has been released recently

820
00:44:07,329 --> 00:44:03,319
and the gentleman was on NPR today in he

821
00:44:12,210 --> 00:44:07,339
was talking about how Thomas Edison was

822
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:12,220
trying to somehow put down Tesla by

823
00:44:17,849 --> 00:44:15,049
going around and publicly you know

824
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:17,859
electrocuting dogs and cats and say

825
00:44:24,549 --> 00:44:20,750
different you've just been Westinghouse

826
00:44:27,099 --> 00:44:24,559
tour you've just been tested this is the

827
00:44:29,170 --> 00:44:27,109
this is very old news I mean that though

828
00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:29,180
that's been in the old books about it

829
00:44:35,049 --> 00:44:33,020
that's not new news any any uh but but

830
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:35,059
that's that's very good funny thing was

831
00:44:41,799 --> 00:44:39,650
that his his sort of response to it was

832
00:44:44,099 --> 00:44:41,809
to do these public exhibitions of

833
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:44,109
running electricity through himself and

834
00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:47,180
never you know involved any other people

835
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:49,700
or animals or anything and so we have

836
00:44:54,099 --> 00:44:52,130
these sparks shooting out of his head

837
00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:54,109
and where's nobody wanted to shake his

838
00:45:00,099 --> 00:44:55,910
hand after the after the demonstration

839
00:45:02,859 --> 00:45:00,109
but I thought it was kind of interesting

840
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:02,869
that I'd never heard that about Thomas

841
00:45:08,349 --> 00:45:05,510
Edison doing sorry thing I mean this is

842
00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:08,359
very old news i mean i guess i'm behind

843
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:09,500
the times because i didn't know that

844
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:12,890
well up you'll find how Edison tried to

845
00:45:18,910 --> 00:45:16,160
vilify with his public of Tesla with his

846
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:18,920
public electrocution of dogs this is

847
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:21,049
what Edison would do but I mean this is

848
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:23,089
this is old news and yes it's definitely

849
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:27,040
true though but Tesla was vilified by

850
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:31,910
Edison and and more later by the United

851
00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:35,119
States government itself and Tesla's one

852
00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:37,430
weakness and this is very interesting

853
00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:40,190
weakness as a human being was the

854
00:45:50,090 --> 00:45:43,640
politics he was not a political

855
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:50,100
power so people will attack political

856
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:53,070
strong people who often use illegal

857
00:46:00,850 --> 00:45:57,090
Makka billion means to accomplish Tesla

858
00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:00,860
did not use those means and this was

859
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:03,720
made him vulnerable but that's a whole

860
00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:08,850
nother story oh yeah goodness oh so

861
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:11,670
there was absolutely a Tesla connection

862
00:46:19,540 --> 00:46:14,760
to all this that we're talking about now

863
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:19,550
what about the the whole synchronicity

864
00:46:26,810 --> 00:46:22,410
thing how does that play well

865
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,820
synchronicity uh came into my life in a

866
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:28,800
big way when I began to investigate the

867
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,390
Montauk Project experiments and the

868
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:35,520
first book because the book was Preston

869
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:41,190
story based upon years and years of

870
00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:44,190
research a decade of research and it was

871
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,880
also sort of a consensus story of what

872
00:46:51,950 --> 00:46:49,440
he gathered from other people there are

873
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:51,960
a lot of people involved in the Montauk

874
00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:54,330
Project and the stories that developed

875
00:47:00,170 --> 00:46:57,750
and it was my job basically to listen to

876
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:00,180
Preston's stories that he'd accumulated

877
00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:02,130
over the years in his own research and

878
00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:07,350
whatnot and then and Preston is not the

879
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:10,470
type of person that's going to dot his

880
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:14,490
eyes and cross his tea so well he's more

881
00:47:20,690 --> 00:47:16,140
interested in what he's interested in

882
00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:20,700
he's not a a journalist he's not always

883
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:23,100
going to objectify everything he's a

884
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:28,830
part mad scientist so when I and some of

885
00:47:33,740 --> 00:47:30,770
the phenomena he would encounter did not

886
00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:33,750
lend itself towards verification I was

887
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:35,790
much more interested in verifying things

888
00:47:41,540 --> 00:47:39,810
and when I sought out to verify these

889
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:41,550
things the first thing you find is the

890
00:47:51,410 --> 00:47:45,510
data trail has been hidden deliberately

891
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:51,420
obscured or shredded and what I began to

892
00:47:55,269 --> 00:47:53,700
experience with was synchronicity

893
00:47:59,019 --> 00:47:55,279
coincidences of

894
00:48:02,349 --> 00:47:59,029
and this began with my first meeting

895
00:48:04,839 --> 00:48:02,359
with Preston Nichols and of his story

896
00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:04,849
that he himself and Duncan Cameron who

897
00:48:11,919 --> 00:48:08,329
basically broke this story with the help

898
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:11,929
of al bielek that they were the Wilson

899
00:48:17,140 --> 00:48:14,329
brothers in a past life and that they

900
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:17,150
worked for Aleister Crowley's father or

901
00:48:21,969 --> 00:48:18,650
they had a company with Aleister

902
00:48:25,029 --> 00:48:21,979
Crowley's father in that eventually

903
00:48:26,909 --> 00:48:25,039
became the thorn emi company who

904
00:48:32,049 --> 00:48:26,919
released the Philadelphia Experiment

905
00:48:34,569 --> 00:48:32,059
movie on Vidia and so this began a whole

906
00:48:36,819 --> 00:48:34,579
series of synchronicities of looking for

907
00:48:38,709 --> 00:48:36,829
the name Wilson and finding that

908
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:38,719
Aleister Crowley was friends with a man

909
00:48:44,589 --> 00:48:42,529
named Duncan Cameron and that edward

910
00:48:47,049 --> 00:48:44,599
alexander crowley was his real name

911
00:48:48,999 --> 00:48:47,059
which was the same names as edward

912
00:48:50,289 --> 00:48:49,009
cameron and alexander cameron who were

913
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:50,299
part of the Philadelphia Experiment

914
00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:53,209
story so I had this these names but then

915
00:48:58,839 --> 00:48:55,819
those initial coincidences with those

916
00:49:00,370 --> 00:48:58,849
names began to become stronger and

917
00:49:03,189 --> 00:49:00,380
stronger and stronger with different

918
00:49:06,399 --> 00:49:03,199
experiences which I would have and all

919
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:06,409
of these comedy I'm eating a woman named

920
00:49:12,279 --> 00:49:10,400
Cameron who is Marjorie Cameron the wife

921
00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:12,289
of Jack Parsons she was the magical

922
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:14,390
partner of Jack Parsons and l ron

923
00:49:20,439 --> 00:49:16,249
hubbard in an effort called the babylon

924
00:49:25,809 --> 00:49:20,449
working so in Jack Parsons was a big OTO

925
00:49:29,469 --> 00:49:25,819
guy right yeah he was the primary person

926
00:49:32,109 --> 00:49:29,479
in the OTO in the nineteen early 1940s

927
00:49:35,049 --> 00:49:32,119
he eventually found his way out of the

928
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:35,059
OTO the Ordo Templi Orientis we should

929
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:36,380
say for those people who are not

930
00:49:42,429 --> 00:49:39,130
familiar with the Ordo Templi Orientis

931
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:42,439
which basically means the order of the

932
00:49:50,979 --> 00:49:47,359
temple of the east i mean it is uh they

933
00:49:54,299 --> 00:49:50,989
claim the adherence or a legacy to the

934
00:50:00,449 --> 00:49:54,309
Knights Templars of Solomon's Temple but

935
00:50:02,979 --> 00:50:00,459
Crowley Aleister Crowley was a

936
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:02,989
inspiration and a mentor to Jack Parsons

937
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:05,689
in a magical sense a jack called himself

938
00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:08,570
is magical son

939
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:10,520
and he was but he broke away from

940
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:13,130
crawley he broke away from crowley and

941
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:15,890
became a renegade mazuma magician

942
00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:18,710
himself he is the person who's most

943
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:20,630
responsible for our modern rocket

944
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,910
program with his basically invention of

945
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:27,920
the solid fuel rocket as opposed to a

946
00:50:34,570 --> 00:50:30,650
liquid fuel rocket which is a slow burn

947
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:34,580
so Parsons had a whole agenda to explore

948
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:37,580
the moon he has a crater on the Dark

949
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Side of the Moon named after him and he

950
00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:43,130
is the one of the initial founders of

951
00:50:47,350 --> 00:50:44,660
the Jet Propulsion Laboratory which

952
00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:47,360
people like to say is the JPL John Jack

953
00:50:53,970 --> 00:50:49,940
Parsons laboratory oh you know I never

954
00:50:57,220 --> 00:50:53,980
thought of that yes yes and and he is

955
00:51:00,460 --> 00:50:57,230
one of the founding fathers of the JPL

956
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:00,470
yes so this is uh but anyway my

957
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:02,330
synchronism he's led back to Marjorie

958
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:04,130
Cameron who told me that her real last

959
00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:06,290
name was Wilson and so is l ron hubbard

960
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:08,830
he was really a Wilson to sew these

961
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:11,090
synchronicities resulted in a book I

962
00:51:14,770 --> 00:51:12,650
wrote to try and explain them called

963
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:14,780
Montauk revisited adventures in

964
00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:17,390
synchronicity so synchronicity has been

965
00:51:24,370 --> 00:51:22,040
became a hallmark of my experiences and

966
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,380
my career as a writer did I have

967
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:26,480
experiences in synchronicity prior to

968
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:29,030
investigating Montauk I think we all do

969
00:51:37,330 --> 00:51:33,580
but after this they became very

970
00:51:40,420 --> 00:51:37,340
significant and very important and

971
00:51:42,370 --> 00:51:40,430
noteworthy because I had become a writer

972
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:42,380
who was writing about them whereas

973
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:45,520
before a coincidence is a coincidence

974
00:51:53,170 --> 00:51:49,790
you know my my brother and I both

975
00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:53,180
married a woman named Nina and so you

976
00:51:57,070 --> 00:51:55,190
know that was a man and my first wife

977
00:51:58,890 --> 00:51:57,080
was we were born in the same hospital so

978
00:52:04,900 --> 00:51:58,900
you have synchronicities in your life

979
00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:04,910
but this is the synchronicities began to

980
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:06,470
become more significance and more

981
00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:08,930
pronounced as I began to investigate the

982
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:10,790
montauk project as I began to

983
00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:13,490
investigate time because you understand

984
00:52:17,830 --> 00:52:15,140
that the word synchronicity which was

985
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:17,840
coined by Carl Jung means time together

986
00:52:24,610 --> 00:52:20,720
or synchronizing time

987
00:52:27,340 --> 00:52:24,620
Chronos is time chronicity sin is sin

988
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:27,350
sink is to bring into synchronization or

989
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:30,560
to bring together so this is this is

990
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:31,910
what you're doing if you're setting time

991
00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:34,850
you're bringing time together Carl Jung

992
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:36,350
is the one who coined the word

993
00:52:42,220 --> 00:52:39,320
synchronicity and although he would not

994
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,230
refute what I just said about time the

995
00:52:49,870 --> 00:52:45,200
definition of them etymology of it he

996
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:49,880
said that the word was a precursor to

997
00:52:59,530 --> 00:52:54,650
the Dow the Chinese word the dow t AO

998
00:53:04,360 --> 00:52:59,540
pronounced Dow as in Gao jiong but it

999
00:53:07,930 --> 00:53:04,370
was uh this is you're taking a pathway

1000
00:53:11,530 --> 00:53:07,940
to the ultimate principle of existence

1001
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:11,540
which the Chinese called it down and so

1002
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,330
Monta and if you look in the montauk

1003
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:15,920
revisited at the beginning of the book

1004
00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:20,570
it will say that the dow is the mystery

1005
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:23,720
behind all mysteries so Montauk is full

1006
00:53:29,170 --> 00:53:25,910
of mystery as we've been talking about

1007
00:53:32,020 --> 00:53:29,180
for the last 45 minutes or whatever it's

1008
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,030
full of mystery but the more and people

1009
00:53:37,870 --> 00:53:34,400
often get sidetracked by all of the

1010
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:37,880
electronics all of the occult lore all

1011
00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:45,200
of the mysteries of 10,000 things that

1012
00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:50,230
they might say in the doubt but the real

1013
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:52,790
mystery behind all mysteries is very

1014
00:53:58,140 --> 00:53:55,520
simple and it's the doubt and this is

1015
00:54:02,380 --> 00:53:58,150
what we should be seeking not the

1016
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:02,390
complexities of my control and torture

1017
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,030
and how screwed up people can get inside

1018
00:54:10,030 --> 00:54:07,520
their heads by the victimization that

1019
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:10,040
was perpetrated by these insulting

1020
00:54:17,590 --> 00:54:14,480
characters now use it when you started

1021
00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:17,600
investigating a researching time you

1022
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:19,700
started experiencing more

1023
00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:21,650
synchronicities not necessarily just

1024
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:24,320
noticing more but actually having more

1025
00:54:29,410 --> 00:54:26,990
synchronicities is that right that's

1026
00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:29,420
true because what is going on a pursuit

1027
00:54:33,290 --> 00:54:31,720
of an investigation and that

1028
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:33,300
investigation

1029
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:37,290
creates a resident report or a law of

1030
00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:40,710
attraction so you know you're attracting

1031
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:43,620
you're attracting the truth in a way

1032
00:54:50,540 --> 00:54:46,740
you're attracting the secrets and some

1033
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:50,550
of these secrets get quite deep they

1034
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:54,420
they traced back into they actually

1035
00:55:01,850 --> 00:54:58,160
manifested i manifested a synchronicity

1036
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:01,860
that tie it all the way back to the the

1037
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:04,830
death of my parents and my early

1038
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:07,260
out-of-body experiences which is the

1039
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:08,700
subject of a book called the Montauk

1040
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:10,530
book of the living that's a whole nother

1041
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:14,280
story everything was related in my life

1042
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:18,210
to the olive the mystery of the olives

1043
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:23,220
the mount of olives by now the body

1044
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:25,770
experiences were on olive drive my

1045
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:28,050
parents were killed on the land of the

1046
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:31,110
olives they were buried on the land of

1047
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:34,110
the olives in California early los

1048
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:37,470
olivos adobe or adobe los olivos liveth

1049
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,710
to all of family so and then then the

1050
00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:42,960
matriarch of the Montauk Indians was

1051
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:47,400
Oliveira and olive Pharaoh died on the

1052
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:50,280
day she received my second addition to

1053
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:52,530
my book pyramids of Montauk of a

1054
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:54,930
bleeding gallbladder at the same time I

1055
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:57,780
was reading a piece of paper that said

1056
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,480
the olive oil will heal the gallbladder

1057
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:02,940
so these are all these synchronicities

1058
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:05,520
with the olive and of course all of this

1059
00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:11,280
was precipitated by a a playbill from

1060
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:13,500
the Newton the GNU Montauk theater which

1061
00:56:18,020 --> 00:56:15,540
was a playbill that was handed to me and

1062
00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:18,030
stashed in this playbill who was framed

1063
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:19,830
was a picture of Jesus on the Mount of

1064
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:22,140
Olives it took me a year to discover

1065
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:24,930
this this mysterious picture lurking

1066
00:56:30,740 --> 00:56:28,740
behind there and it all came to out of

1067
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:30,750
me in front of Duncan Cameron the

1068
00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:32,610
Montauk psychic he just happened to be

1069
00:56:37,310 --> 00:56:34,680
in my house and I asked him to try and

1070
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:37,320
give me a psychic read on the on this

1071
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:40,880
playbill and it turned out that this

1072
00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:44,430
this picture it came out but the thing

1073
00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:46,470
fell apart when I gave it to him and out

1074
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:47,190
came this

1075
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:49,500
sure of Christ I'm not all there are two

1076
00:56:54,170 --> 00:56:51,540
pictures of Christ on Mount Olive which

1077
00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:54,180
caused me to investigate olives mount

1078
00:57:00,620 --> 00:56:57,270
olive and all of the Associated lord

1079
00:57:04,569 --> 00:57:00,630
with the olive so this is the most

1080
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:04,579
sacred object in Christianity Judaism

1081
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:07,170
it's also sacred with Islam and the

1082
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:10,260
Greek religion it's the foundation of

1083
00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:11,760
the elhas inian mysteries of ancient

1084
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:16,230
Greece which Eleusis Elliott has to do

1085
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:20,250
with olive so this is this is we talk

1086
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:21,810
about synchronicity boy this gets into

1087
00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:24,510
real deep sacred core stuff because this

1088
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:27,390
is the foundational magic if you look at

1089
00:57:32,839 --> 00:57:29,790
religious religion which means to link

1090
00:57:35,770 --> 00:57:32,849
back to people think it means to bind to

1091
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:35,780
find you but it means to link back to

1092
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,250
the latin word religioso and to link

1093
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:43,440
back to the original cause and all of

1094
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:45,630
this stuff linked back to the original

1095
00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:48,510
cause and of course what if one is doing

1096
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,190
that one's going to have moments in life

1097
00:57:53,569 --> 00:57:52,079
because although i've relayed my

1098
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:53,579
experiences which might seem

1099
00:57:58,339 --> 00:57:55,890
particularly interesting or noteworthy

1100
00:57:59,930 --> 00:57:58,349
there's people that have had far more

1101
00:58:03,500 --> 00:57:59,940
incredible experiences that I've just

1102
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:03,510
laid out mine are laid out in a in a

1103
00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:05,359
form of literature because I'm a writer

1104
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:07,380
but threaten people that have had

1105
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:11,520
dramatic experiences of which may or may

1106
00:58:16,579 --> 00:58:15,119
not be as good as mine it's it's not

1107
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:16,589
really a thing of compare where all the

1108
00:58:22,460 --> 00:58:19,140
point is we're all tied to original

1109
00:58:24,770 --> 00:58:22,470
cause and so we're all caught tied to

1110
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:24,780
original time we're all tied to

1111
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,240
non-original time because we're we're

1112
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:29,760
all stuck in time or were placed in time

1113
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:32,940
or we're aware of having been there and

1114
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:36,990
we're agile in time but we're all we all

1115
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:40,890
have the potential to figure out where

1116
00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:43,170
we came from and so basically this is

1117
00:58:48,109 --> 00:58:46,020
what synchronicity will do when you

1118
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:48,119
begin to investigate synchronicity you

1119
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:50,130
will precipitate more synchronicity and

1120
00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:53,040
by the way or Peter can you hold that

1121
00:58:56,660 --> 00:58:54,630
thought for just a moment we're going to

1122
00:58:58,099 --> 00:58:56,670
take another quick break and when we

1123
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,109
come back we're going to finish this

1124
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:00,000
thought and then I want to definitely

1125
00:59:01,820 --> 00:59:00,330
get

1126
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:01,830
into your book the white bat because

1127
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:04,110
that's of some real interest I know to

1128
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:07,050
the listeners and a bit about the

1129
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,650
Romanian Sphinx if that's okay all right

1130
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:12,480
everybody we'll be right back hanging in

1131
00:59:42,970 --> 00:59:40,510
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1170
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:36,350
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1171
01:01:41,770 --> 01:01:38,960
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01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:41,780
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01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:46,310
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01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:48,890
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01:01:55,990 --> 01:02:23,479
so much

1176
01:02:28,499 --> 01:02:26,099
welcome back to night vision radio I'm

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01:02:31,469 --> 01:02:28,509
your host Renee Barnett my guest tonight

1178
01:02:35,179 --> 01:02:31,479
is Peter moon he's an author and a

1179
01:02:38,579 --> 01:02:35,189
researcher into all things mysterious

1180
01:02:42,269 --> 01:02:38,589
including time travel synchronicity and

1181
01:02:43,859 --> 01:02:42,279
the like now did you have something else

1182
01:02:46,289 --> 01:02:43,869
you wanted to add on that synchronicity

1183
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:46,299
note yeah it's just a sentence or two

1184
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:49,119
and that's that there is a science of

1185
01:02:51,569 --> 01:02:50,380
synchronicity or a study of

1186
01:02:57,089 --> 01:02:51,579
synchronicity and it's known as

1187
01:03:00,359 --> 01:02:57,099
astrology and that is an astrology is a

1188
01:03:03,149 --> 01:03:00,369
very deep subject which is often held to

1189
01:03:04,769 --> 01:03:03,159
ridicule only because of people who

1190
01:03:07,339 --> 01:03:04,779
don't understand it and sometimes that

1191
01:03:10,709 --> 01:03:07,349
includes the people who advocated but

1192
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:10,719
that's a whole other subject but it's

1193
01:03:17,279 --> 01:03:13,890
all about synchronicity and it's a

1194
01:03:19,380 --> 01:03:17,289
causal as opposed to causal these are

1195
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:19,390
two principles in science Sciences

1196
01:03:23,339 --> 01:03:21,609
causal which is your ordinary cause and

1197
01:03:26,609 --> 01:03:23,349
effect there's also a causal or

1198
01:03:29,339 --> 01:03:26,619
non-linear experiences which manifest

1199
01:03:31,769 --> 01:03:29,349
and this is scientifically recognized so

1200
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:31,779
we're not going to digress on to

1201
01:03:37,890 --> 01:03:35,650
astrology now but you wanted to bring up

1202
01:03:40,979 --> 01:03:37,900
somebody had a question in the chat room

1203
01:03:44,189 --> 01:03:40,989
you said oh that's right someone in and

1204
01:03:45,929 --> 01:03:44,199
forgive me it might have been American

1205
01:03:48,209 --> 01:03:45,939
Road Warrior it might have been neutron

1206
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:48,219
I'm not sure and I didn't matter don't

1207
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:50,319
want to take the time to scroll back but

1208
01:03:53,999 --> 01:03:52,689
they were asking about what your opinion

1209
01:03:56,009 --> 01:03:54,009
and it seemed like everyone in the room

1210
01:03:59,579 --> 01:03:56,019
was interested in what your opinion of

1211
01:04:02,009 --> 01:03:59,589
al bielek accounts is you know as you

1212
01:04:05,429 --> 01:04:02,019
know he's a bit of a controversial

1213
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:05,439
figure he's had lots of detractors but

1214
01:04:10,529 --> 01:04:08,799
you know him so can you give us shed

1215
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:10,539
some light on al bielek for us i'll be

1216
01:04:18,989 --> 01:04:13,839
like passed away he's passed away now

1217
01:04:21,169 --> 01:04:18,999
but al was a very sincere person a lot

1218
01:04:24,269 --> 01:04:21,179
of what he stirred up and his

1219
01:04:27,959 --> 01:04:24,279
investigation of such subjects goes back

1220
01:04:30,959 --> 01:04:27,969
to the the 50s and he was involved in

1221
01:04:32,999 --> 01:04:30,969
the dianetics movement which which got a

1222
01:04:33,830 --> 01:04:33,009
lot of stirred his mind up and made him

1223
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:33,840
look at things

1224
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:37,920
and he been investigating this stuff for

1225
01:04:45,110 --> 01:04:43,770
a long long time he discovered that he

1226
01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:45,120
had a connection to this Philadelphia

1227
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:48,150
Experiment after he met Preston and

1228
01:04:54,050 --> 01:04:51,090
Duncan and he independently associated

1229
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:54,060
himself with the Cameron brothers at the

1230
01:05:00,980 --> 01:04:56,040
same time Preston and Duncan had figured

1231
01:05:04,970 --> 01:05:00,990
out independently so the owl they come

1232
01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:04,980
up with some important things he was the

1233
01:05:11,390 --> 01:05:06,390
one who brought senator barry

1234
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:11,400
goldwater's nephew into the montauk

1235
01:05:20,270 --> 01:05:17,250
investigation and ow but he wasn't

1236
01:05:21,890 --> 01:05:20,280
always right Preston considered a low

1237
01:05:27,770 --> 01:05:21,900
very good psychic he was good with

1238
01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:27,780
machines but AO was capable of being a

1239
01:05:31,370 --> 01:05:30,030
human being he could misfire and the

1240
01:05:33,740 --> 01:05:31,380
same thing could happen with president

1241
01:05:36,010 --> 01:05:33,750
Nichols you can hear him say things and

1242
01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:36,020
you can go and they don't check out and

1243
01:05:44,810 --> 01:05:41,460
it's because this is shooting from the

1244
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:44,820
hip it's nonlinear investigation but al

1245
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:47,730
bielek they set him up on coast-to-coast

1246
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:51,660
one time I was warned 24 hours before he

1247
01:05:55,460 --> 01:05:53,520
went on coast-to-coast that they were

1248
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:55,470
going to slam him and it was all set up

1249
01:06:02,660 --> 01:05:59,760
to build him up and he was tricked so I

1250
01:06:04,850 --> 01:06:02,670
warned him before he went on because I

1251
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:04,860
got word back through the industry and

1252
01:06:09,110 --> 01:06:07,290
he went on there and he predicted that

1253
01:06:12,070 --> 01:06:09,120
there would be a blackout a major black

1254
01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:12,080
out between the tent and the 14th of

1255
01:06:17,810 --> 01:06:15,030
October of August during the the bar

1256
01:06:19,310 --> 01:06:17,820
rhythm of the montauk project that was

1257
01:06:21,350 --> 01:06:19,320
between the 10 from the 14th of

1258
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:21,360
philadelphia experiment and the montauk

1259
01:06:26,330 --> 01:06:23,730
project would have these spiral rhythm

1260
01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:26,340
that would occur every year and I forget

1261
01:06:33,020 --> 01:06:29,940
the year this was I think it was 2003 it

1262
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:33,030
was the big blackout Wow and he was

1263
01:06:37,580 --> 01:06:34,710
right he said between the 10th the 14th

1264
01:06:39,860 --> 01:06:37,590
it was on the fourteenth of august so al

1265
01:06:43,490 --> 01:06:39,870
could be right do I believed everything

1266
01:06:45,860 --> 01:06:43,500
he said no sometimes he was wrong but

1267
01:06:47,569 --> 01:06:45,870
you shouldn't believe anything what I

1268
01:06:48,979 --> 01:06:47,579
would say would just be data

1269
01:06:50,779 --> 01:06:48,989
times it would check out and sometimes

1270
01:06:55,999 --> 01:06:50,789
it wouldn't but he was very passionate

1271
01:06:57,620 --> 01:06:56,009
and he was very sincere and he he has to

1272
01:06:59,150 --> 01:06:57,630
be taken with a grain of salt but then

1273
01:07:01,339 --> 01:06:59,160
again look at Stephen Hawking he spent

1274
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:01,349
so you know he says time travels not

1275
01:07:05,170 --> 01:07:03,119
possible and then he has to recant his

1276
01:07:07,999 --> 01:07:05,180
statement he keeps changing his position

1277
01:07:11,569 --> 01:07:08,009
so does that mean that all the Newtonian

1278
01:07:14,329 --> 01:07:11,579
physics is is baloney no because he's an

1279
01:07:17,180 --> 01:07:14,339
advocate for Newtonian physics but

1280
01:07:19,279 --> 01:07:17,190
people are wrong and people are

1281
01:07:22,729 --> 01:07:19,289
sometimes right so that but i hope that

1282
01:07:25,069 --> 01:07:22,739
covers i'll be like mmm thank you very

1283
01:07:28,279 --> 01:07:25,079
much i think it does I I think that that

1284
01:07:30,349 --> 01:07:28,289
covers it nicely you know gosh we're

1285
01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:30,359
down to the almost the last 20 minutes

1286
01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:33,660
of the show and I don't want to miss

1287
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:36,630
talking about your new book and the

1288
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:38,609
story that you told in the white bag

1289
01:07:50,859 --> 01:07:42,900
it's really interesting and involved in

1290
01:07:55,069 --> 01:07:50,869
that in that story is a place in Romania

1291
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:55,079
now we opposed it a picture on my

1292
01:07:59,779 --> 01:07:57,930
Facebook page of in up just posted it in

1293
01:08:05,089 --> 01:07:59,789
the chat room of the is what's called

1294
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:05,099
the Romanian Sphinx and if you want to

1295
01:08:11,299 --> 01:08:07,049
give us a little bit of information on

1296
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:11,309
what that is and then maybe go back then

1297
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:13,349
and get us into the story well I'm going

1298
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:16,980
to go back to the blackout of 2003 with

1299
01:08:21,499 --> 01:08:19,199
that okay dicted and there was a big

1300
01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:21,509
blackout in New York the center point I

1301
01:08:24,379 --> 01:08:22,920
mean this was a huge black out they were

1302
01:08:27,140 --> 01:08:24,389
talking about changing the whole grid

1303
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:27,150
and the center of it was Preston's new

1304
01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:31,409
home in Cairo New York cair oh he moved

1305
01:08:38,300 --> 01:08:32,880
to Cairo New York which they like to

1306
01:08:39,919 --> 01:08:38,310
call karo aur but anyway that at the

1307
01:08:41,149 --> 01:08:39,929
same time that big blackout was

1308
01:08:42,649 --> 01:08:41,159
happening this was the big blackout

1309
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:42,659
everybody was waiting for who followed

1310
01:08:48,859 --> 01:08:44,369
the Montauk Project who goes two

1311
01:08:50,780 --> 01:08:48,869
thousand 1943 1983 2003 what was going

1312
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:50,790
to happen in 2003 well we had a big

1313
01:08:56,839 --> 01:08:53,279
black out on Long Island in New York

1314
01:08:59,720 --> 01:08:56,849
City and the whole East Coast center

1315
01:09:00,849 --> 01:08:59,730
around Cairo New York up to Buffalo into

1316
01:09:03,729 --> 01:09:00,859
Ohio

1317
01:09:07,149 --> 01:09:03,739
but there was also something going on in

1318
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:07,159
the country of Romania in august of 2003

1319
01:09:12,430 --> 01:09:09,170
and this was the discovery of a chamber

1320
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:12,440
beneath the Romanian Sphinx and this is

1321
01:09:18,849 --> 01:09:16,369
in the mountains of the Carpathian

1322
01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:18,859
Mountains sort of were they a little bit

1323
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:22,699
where they curve up from the going west

1324
01:09:28,349 --> 01:09:24,170
to east and then they start to go north

1325
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:28,359
and south this is not far from the

1326
01:09:35,769 --> 01:09:33,409
Citadel that the the famous Vlad or

1327
01:09:39,370 --> 01:09:35,779
Count Dracula as we know him used to

1328
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:39,380
have a fortress that would go in and out

1329
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:42,049
from Transylvania to valakian it was the

1330
01:09:46,689 --> 01:09:43,850
passageway that he was a citadel it was

1331
01:09:54,099 --> 01:09:46,699
not his castle but it was a citadel a

1332
01:09:57,010 --> 01:09:54,109
fortress now the Sphinx is a rock

1333
01:09:59,740 --> 01:09:57,020
formation that on one side looks like a

1334
01:10:04,390 --> 01:09:59,750
person on the other side looks like a

1335
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:04,400
lion or a Griffin just like the Egyptian

1336
01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:06,770
sphinx this part man part lion it looks

1337
01:10:12,189 --> 01:10:09,800
like it's naturally carved by the wind

1338
01:10:14,290 --> 01:10:12,199
but some of it looks like it scarred by

1339
01:10:16,419 --> 01:10:14,300
minutes very old supposed to be 50,000

1340
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:16,429
years old and people like to argue over

1341
01:10:21,340 --> 01:10:19,130
whether it's an artifact or just a freak

1342
01:10:24,010 --> 01:10:21,350
of nature but there are also other mega

1343
01:10:25,810 --> 01:10:24,020
lists up in that area a lot of Legends a

1344
01:10:28,979 --> 01:10:25,820
lot of stories but underneath this they

1345
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:28,989
found a chamber now this is the highest

1346
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:32,210
level of security of the governments of

1347
01:10:38,729 --> 01:10:35,090
Romania and America America discovered

1348
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:38,739
the chamber and with the Pentagon's

1349
01:10:45,939 --> 01:10:41,570
technology of ground penetrating radar

1350
01:10:46,990 --> 01:10:45,949
from satellites and there was a chamber

1351
01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:47,000
that was discovered there with

1352
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:49,100
holographic technology holographic

1353
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:53,330
records of time now but a short circuit

1354
01:10:57,010 --> 01:10:55,310
this story because it's told in a book

1355
01:10:59,229 --> 01:10:57,020
called Transylvanian sunrise by a

1356
01:11:02,340 --> 01:10:59,239
Romanian author who is part of the

1357
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:02,350
project which was allowed to see it and

1358
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:06,320
this is a whole dramatic story that I've

1359
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:11,380
talked about on many radio shows but

1360
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:18,810
uh I was brought over there five years

1361
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:22,870
after that discovery by a time-travel

1362
01:11:27,450 --> 01:11:25,110
scientist named dr. David Anderson and

1363
01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:27,460
dr. David Anderson is featured in the

1364
01:11:31,410 --> 01:11:28,840
white bat because he's the one who

1365
01:11:33,390 --> 01:11:31,420
brought me to Romania where I began to

1366
01:11:36,629 --> 01:11:33,400
investigate the Sphinx now I was not

1367
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:36,639
able to access that chamber I was not

1368
01:11:41,970 --> 01:11:39,790
able to see all of the wonderful things

1369
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:41,980
described in that book although I did

1370
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:43,600
maintain a correspondence with the

1371
01:11:48,660 --> 01:11:45,250
author for a considerable amount of time

1372
01:11:52,590 --> 01:11:48,670
before he sort of disappeared but i have

1373
01:11:55,820 --> 01:11:52,600
made trips to romania eight trips from

1374
01:12:03,720 --> 01:11:55,830
2008 annually i made to last year and

1375
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:03,730
when i went over there in 2013 i was

1376
01:12:09,419 --> 01:12:06,280
writing a book called the white bat

1377
01:12:10,919 --> 01:12:09,429
based upon a dream I had had in 1989

1378
01:12:15,260 --> 01:12:10,929
before I got involved in any of this

1379
01:12:21,629 --> 01:12:15,270
time-travel stuff and this dream was of

1380
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:21,639
going to Dracula's Citadel and pursuing

1381
01:12:27,959 --> 01:12:26,350
him and catching him after he turned

1382
01:12:30,629 --> 01:12:27,969
into a bat and then the bat turned white

1383
01:12:33,060 --> 01:12:30,639
and then he turned white he became the

1384
01:12:34,860 --> 01:12:33,070
antithesis of Dracula if we have the

1385
01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:34,870
Christ we have the Antichrist we had the

1386
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:37,000
Antichrist we have the Christ if we had

1387
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:38,710
the Dracula we have the anti Dracula and

1388
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:40,719
when I say Dracula and anti Dracula I

1389
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:43,810
must be very careful that the my dream

1390
01:12:47,790 --> 01:12:45,610
was based upon the Hollywood versions

1391
01:12:50,610 --> 01:12:47,800
that you most of you are familiar with

1392
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:50,620
this is in stark contrast to the real

1393
01:12:56,820 --> 01:12:53,679
character who is a historical character

1394
01:13:00,450 --> 01:12:56,830
who is not the same as is portrayed in

1395
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:00,460
the movies and he is a national hero in

1396
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:03,370
Romania because he saved the Romanians

1397
01:13:12,629 --> 01:13:06,850
from the Turks who are enslaving the

1398
01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:12,639
Christian people of Romania so was he a

1399
01:13:17,729 --> 01:13:14,830
dark character yes he was but he was

1400
01:13:20,669 --> 01:13:17,739
also doing a job nobody else would or

1401
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:20,679
could do so I don't want to go down the

1402
01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:24,130
Dracula's side tunnel here but the why

1403
01:13:31,919 --> 01:13:28,679
bat dream I wrote a story and I realized

1404
01:13:33,919 --> 01:13:31,929
that I was being brought to Romania long

1405
01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:33,929
before I got involved in it in it

1406
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:36,940
involved in time travel and yet I would

1407
01:13:43,169 --> 01:13:40,239
find stories of time travel in Romania

1408
01:13:46,649 --> 01:13:43,179
it's mentioned in the books and when I

1409
01:13:49,410 --> 01:13:46,659
got to Romania in 2013 and would have

1410
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:49,420
been my sixth trip it was during that

1411
01:13:54,629 --> 01:13:51,850
August biorhythm it was August temp and

1412
01:13:56,970 --> 01:13:54,639
I'm telling this guy who's going to be

1413
01:13:59,550 --> 01:13:56,980
our guide through an interpreter of my

1414
01:14:02,040 --> 01:13:59,560
dream about the white bat how I was

1415
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:02,050
brought to his country I was being

1416
01:14:04,979 --> 01:14:03,340
brought there already he was already

1417
01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:04,989
familiar with my work because it's been

1418
01:14:10,169 --> 01:14:08,230
translated into Romanian and he said

1419
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:10,179
that a young girl had just seen a white

1420
01:14:16,919 --> 01:14:13,449
back four days earlier in a cave and the

1421
01:14:19,860 --> 01:14:16,929
cave had particular significance uh but

1422
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:19,870
anyway so I said wow this was a white

1423
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:23,650
bat it appeared there and then somebody

1424
01:14:29,129 --> 01:14:25,360
who was with her said it wasn't a white

1425
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:29,139
bat she insisted the white was back the

1426
01:14:37,649 --> 01:14:33,690
bat was white and so I included this

1427
01:14:41,129 --> 01:14:37,659
adventure in my story which summarizes

1428
01:14:43,290 --> 01:14:41,139
all of my adventures in Romania there's

1429
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:43,300
been four byte this is the fifth book on

1430
01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:45,850
my Romanian adventures which most of

1431
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,380
these books are by a Romanian author

1432
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,360
these first four books there's this

1433
01:14:54,209 --> 01:14:51,520
Transylvanian sunrise the Transylvanian

1434
01:14:56,610 --> 01:14:54,219
moonrise mystery of Egypt secret

1435
01:14:59,910 --> 01:14:56,620
parchment parchment and now the white

1436
01:15:01,979 --> 01:14:59,920
bat and these these are incredible

1437
01:15:07,530 --> 01:15:01,989
adventures which center around time in

1438
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:07,540
the fourth book underneath the sacred

1439
01:15:12,530 --> 01:15:09,489
site in Transylvania which I've been to

1440
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,540
five times sarma soja tuza there is a

1441
01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:15,040
huge gold deposits now these gold

1442
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:17,020
deposits are not controversial as to

1443
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:20,560
whether or not they exist this book a

1444
01:15:26,729 --> 01:15:22,650
secret parchment describes them as

1445
01:15:28,740 --> 01:15:26,739
tunnels of pure gold that are carved out

1446
01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:28,750
or look like they're carved out they

1447
01:15:35,340 --> 01:15:32,310
feature hieroglyphics they feature a

1448
01:15:36,330 --> 01:15:35,350
location that is said to be the center

1449
01:15:39,959 --> 01:15:36,340
of time

1450
01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:39,969
and with great mysteries in it so this

1451
01:15:46,859 --> 01:15:42,940
is the theme of time comes up and it all

1452
01:15:51,390 --> 01:15:46,869
comes by way of this mysterious dream I

1453
01:15:52,859 --> 01:15:51,400
had of a white bat and that's that's

1454
01:15:55,859 --> 01:15:52,869
what the book is about and it's

1455
01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:55,869
available on Kindle and of course

1456
01:16:01,850 --> 01:15:58,810
through amazon or through skybox USA com

1457
01:16:05,550 --> 01:16:01,860
which is my website skybox usa.com

1458
01:16:07,649 --> 01:16:05,560
that's great you know and if anyone is

1459
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:07,659
looking and can't find it just send me a

1460
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:09,369
quick note and i'll be sure and refer

1461
01:16:16,109 --> 01:16:12,130
you to peter sites i've posted those

1462
01:16:18,359 --> 01:16:16,119
also in the chat room so that people can

1463
01:16:20,879 --> 01:16:18,369
avail themselves and people have been

1464
01:16:23,870 --> 01:16:20,889
commenting on on your books and how many

1465
01:16:26,850 --> 01:16:23,880
you know you're pretty prolific author I

1466
01:16:29,430 --> 01:16:26,860
published 20 books and I my name's as a

1467
01:16:34,890 --> 01:16:29,440
co-author on about 16 or 17 of them I

1468
01:16:36,060 --> 01:16:34,900
can't keep track anymore but yeah it's a

1469
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:36,070
lot of books and they're all on that

1470
01:16:44,820 --> 01:16:40,239
website sky books USA com and I need to

1471
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:44,830
put up a catalog there because it gives

1472
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:48,489
sort of a history of sky books how all

1473
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:50,650
of this stuff evolve and develop I've

1474
01:16:58,379 --> 01:16:53,590
been writing and publishing for 23 years

1475
01:17:01,320 --> 01:16:58,389
and now I have to go back over

1476
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:01,330
everything and sort of refine everything

1477
01:17:06,839 --> 01:17:04,449
and I have a lot of knowledge and

1478
01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:06,849
experience to draw upon as I move

1479
01:17:14,820 --> 01:17:11,830
forward into into the next stage of my

1480
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:14,830
life now I should add that I've added to

1481
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:17,920
podcasts to my website digital montauk

1482
01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:20,800
calm to podcasts on the subject of

1483
01:17:26,729 --> 01:17:25,270
remote viewing and now you mentioned

1484
01:17:29,459 --> 01:17:26,739
that to me on the phone in our

1485
01:17:30,839 --> 01:17:29,469
pre-interview and you were saying that

1486
01:17:33,390 --> 01:17:30,849
this is a different approach I mean

1487
01:17:38,220 --> 01:17:33,400
we've all you know by now fairly

1488
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,230
familiar with the military's program on

1489
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:40,480
remote viewing but you're talking about

1490
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:43,449
something very different well I'm

1491
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:45,760
basically telling all these people they

1492
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:47,710
think they know about remote viewing

1493
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:52,210
and no it's not quite the way they think

1494
01:18:00,600 --> 01:17:58,719
it is and I advise people to listen to

1495
01:18:03,209 --> 01:18:00,610
the podcast the third one will come out

1496
01:18:07,070 --> 01:18:03,219
next week that sort of sums it up I can

1497
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:07,080
even go into a fourth one possibly but

1498
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:09,610
the remote people that are doing the

1499
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,650
remote viewing or telling you that

1500
01:18:17,220 --> 01:18:13,600
they're doing the road no viewing are

1501
01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:17,230
not quite what you but what the general

1502
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:19,270
public is thought they were they're not

1503
01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:21,280
quite the characters that you think they

1504
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:24,820
are and this this is what I have to say

1505
01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:26,290
I don't know if we have the time to go

1506
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:30,580
into it but all as I would say is that

1507
01:18:37,620 --> 01:18:34,719
the person who's most responsible for

1508
01:18:41,130 --> 01:18:37,630
making that movement happen was Ingo

1509
01:18:45,020 --> 01:18:41,140
Swann and I knew Ingo Swann from

1510
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:45,030
Scientology as i was in Scientology in

1511
01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:47,680
he was a by the time I got into

1512
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:50,440
Scientology 1971 he was a very active

1513
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:52,960
member and it helped create the

1514
01:19:00,090 --> 01:18:56,560
Celebrity Center in Los Angeles which is

1515
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:00,100
the place that all the celebrities now

1516
01:19:06,300 --> 01:19:03,280
go to in Hollywood that are interested

1517
01:19:08,010 --> 01:19:06,310
in Scientology Scientology was

1518
01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:08,020
completely not only different back then

1519
01:19:12,030 --> 01:19:09,880
than it is now and he was a strong

1520
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,040
member of Scientology a very strong

1521
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:14,560
member and he later claimed that he was

1522
01:19:19,050 --> 01:19:16,450
in her distance himself from it and this

1523
01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:19,060
was all bs he was very much involved in

1524
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:20,980
it and he was the one who did the

1525
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:23,280
initial remote viewing experiments that

1526
01:19:28,410 --> 01:19:26,080
garnished all this publicity now there

1527
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:28,420
was another occult side to Ingo that

1528
01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:30,489
people really don't know about I sort of

1529
01:19:37,620 --> 01:19:34,390
go into that in the podcast and he was

1530
01:19:41,729 --> 01:19:37,630
uh he did have definite psychic

1531
01:19:47,010 --> 01:19:41,739
abilities he was an affable person but

1532
01:19:48,959 --> 01:19:47,020
he was also a strong opponent of the

1533
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:48,969
Montauk Project revelation of that

1534
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:51,910
information and this i know from preston

1535
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:53,260
Nichols who was approached by ingo swann

1536
01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:54,690
who told him not to look into

1537
01:20:02,900 --> 01:19:59,460
um under a different name and Ingo was

1538
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:02,910
also involved with the cult societies

1539
01:20:08,270 --> 01:20:05,520
and people I don't know to what he was a

1540
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:08,280
member with them or not but he was not

1541
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:11,370
what he appeared to be and I just point

1542
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:13,710
out when you're getting into the

1543
01:20:19,610 --> 01:20:17,760
out-of-body experience or the remote

1544
01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:19,620
viewing experience you're dealing with a

1545
01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:23,310
very high potential of spirituality and

1546
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:25,560
these people are all dealing with war

1547
01:20:33,470 --> 01:20:28,800
and armaments and I would only refer

1548
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:33,480
them to the Buddhist texts which advise

1549
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:36,480
you not to deal in harmonies don't deal

1550
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:38,730
with tobacco don't deal an alcohol don't

1551
01:20:45,979 --> 01:20:41,370
deal in armaments don't deal with the

1552
01:20:48,610 --> 01:20:45,989
ATF you can do what you want to do but

1553
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:48,620
i'm saying when people kind of like wow

1554
01:20:56,990 --> 01:20:54,570
you know it's like what is what are

1555
01:21:01,130 --> 01:20:57,000
these people dealing with war games if

1556
01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:01,140
you even consider that war games are you

1557
01:21:06,490 --> 01:21:03,510
know legitimate it's it's it's not what

1558
01:21:14,270 --> 01:21:06,500
you think it is and they're not heroes

1559
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:14,280
and they're usually and when you say

1560
01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:16,530
they're not heroes are you talking about

1561
01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:19,260
the remote viewers for the government

1562
01:21:25,130 --> 01:21:21,480
yes yes they're not emails they're not

1563
01:21:28,189 --> 01:21:25,140
here well I don't know you know that

1564
01:21:32,780 --> 01:21:28,199
they would argue with that you know I do

1565
01:21:36,740 --> 01:21:32,790
know some of those guys and one quite

1566
01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:36,750
well and a couple of others not quite as

1567
01:21:40,970 --> 01:21:39,060
well through my involvement with them in

1568
01:21:44,780 --> 01:21:40,980
various you know films and television

1569
01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:44,790
programs and then just knowing them for

1570
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:49,590
four years and i would say in some ways

1571
01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:52,050
i think some of them have gone into a

1572
01:22:00,800 --> 01:21:58,020
more i guess a more spiritual mode and

1573
01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:00,810
they were in back in those days before

1574
01:22:06,890 --> 01:22:03,420
the project so could you know supposedly

1575
01:22:08,180 --> 01:22:06,900
ended i think it was in 1995 these

1576
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:08,190
things don't end

1577
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:09,930
this is of course not and none of the

1578
01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:13,110
other guys tonight excuse me this is the

1579
01:22:18,290 --> 01:22:15,900
a salinity of these these this whole

1580
01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:18,300
remote viewing community and the whole

1581
01:22:23,959 --> 01:22:20,190
shtick that goes with it well it ended

1582
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:23,969
it doesn't end it dealing and these

1583
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:26,400
people looking they claim that they were

1584
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:30,449
spies they were doing spy work and does

1585
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:33,930
a spy reveal his methods or methodology

1586
01:22:41,090 --> 01:22:38,730
no he does not a spy is a spy he's

1587
01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:41,100
secret and these are guys coming out and

1588
01:22:45,470 --> 01:22:43,080
saying well I did this and I did this

1589
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:45,480
what are they doing sometimes they're

1590
01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:47,489
trying to recruit other people who have

1591
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:51,510
real talent and and to gather people but

1592
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:53,250
they're not what they appear to be and

1593
01:22:59,810 --> 01:22:55,110
they come out and make these statements

1594
01:23:01,550 --> 01:22:59,820
and they they should just shut up they

1595
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:01,560
should follow the power of the Sphinx

1596
01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:04,080
which is silence what are the four

1597
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:06,420
powers of the Sphinx just be silent and

1598
01:23:12,830 --> 01:23:09,449
of course people will listen and the

1599
01:23:15,790 --> 01:23:12,840
listening audience of any audience just

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by demographics is incredibly gullible

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01:23:20,630 --> 01:23:17,670
incredibly gullible this is why

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01:23:22,340 --> 01:23:20,640
television advertising works and one

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01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:22,350
cannot help it if one sits there and

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01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:24,330
watches TV and they keep playing a song

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:26,580
that that song will go in your head so

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01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:29,130
when people are exposed to this subject

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01:23:34,340 --> 01:23:31,170
and this stuff these these projects

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01:23:36,890 --> 01:23:34,350
don't end they change names and

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01:23:38,810 --> 01:23:36,900
sometimes these people are sent out like

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:38,820
they're they're no good anymore so they

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01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:42,330
don't use them anymore but it's just

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01:23:47,870 --> 01:23:45,330
like I I can't I can't listen to these

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01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:47,880
people because I know where they come

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01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:51,360
from and I'm speaking generally here and

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01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:52,980
I know there's specific people that have

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01:24:00,040 --> 01:23:55,920
real talent and the ones that have real

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01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:00,050
talent generally aren't punt aren't

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01:24:06,380 --> 01:24:03,510
pontificating their abilities or their

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01:24:08,300 --> 01:24:06,390
whys and wherefores and how what they

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01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:08,310
did there's no need for that the ones

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01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:10,290
that are really talented are being used

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01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:13,530
oh yeah well I'm sure they've got a

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01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,520
brand-new batch you know you know cuz of

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01:24:20,850 --> 01:24:19,199
course these guys you know they were

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01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:20,860
that we're talking about her

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01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:24,340
you know older gentleman now so I'm sure

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01:24:29,220 --> 01:24:26,770
they just have a brand new batch of

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01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:29,230
talent in there doing doing their

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01:24:36,359 --> 01:24:32,830
bidding so but anyhow enough about them

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01:24:41,459 --> 01:24:36,369
and enough about that what's your next

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01:24:44,070 --> 01:24:41,469
move with your research well I have I

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01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:44,080
begun a book but we were talking about

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01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:50,170
astrology I began a book that goes into

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01:24:57,180 --> 01:24:54,270
the it's an initiation into time an

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:24:57,190
initiation at a time and it does relate

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01:25:03,540 --> 01:24:59,770
to the stars because we all come from

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:03,550
stars at least our physical aspects come

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01:25:09,859 --> 01:25:06,130
from stars an ancient man's relationship

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01:25:13,770 --> 01:25:09,869
with the stars but how all of that

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01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:13,780
parlays into the evolution of astrology

1641
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:16,239
and the evolution of thinking and the

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01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,489
evolution of how we interact with time

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01:25:24,359 --> 01:25:20,800
the book is designed to be an initiation

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01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:24,369
of the time and if synchronicity works

1645
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:26,770
right it'll come out around the same

1646
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:29,170
time David Andersen starts releasing his

1647
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:31,810
videos on the subject of time he's been

1648
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:34,290
trying to do that for some a decade now

1649
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:37,290
maybe not a decade maybe a half a decade

1650
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:42,639
what's stopping him well at one point it

1651
01:25:50,220 --> 01:25:47,110
was his partners and he spoke to me as

1652
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:50,230
recently as January and said that he's

1653
01:25:55,109 --> 01:25:51,690
hoping to release these later this year

1654
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:55,119
so I hope that he does I know he said he

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01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:56,560
would release them before and it doesn't

1656
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:01,600
happen ah there could be some shake ups

1657
01:26:08,370 --> 01:26:06,940
and some changes in the way uh so

1658
01:26:11,459 --> 01:26:08,380
there's been a lot of restriction and

1659
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:11,469
bad reaction to what he's had to offer I

1660
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:15,730
put his a time reactor patent in the new

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01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:19,560
book the white bat as its follows the

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01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,810
flow of what I experienced and when I

1663
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:25,360
told him that he was very happy that i

1664
01:26:32,609 --> 01:26:28,810
put the the patent in there now I had

1665
01:26:33,700 --> 01:26:32,619
gotten the patent sent to me some time

1666
01:26:37,390 --> 01:26:33,710
ago from him

1667
01:26:39,940 --> 01:26:37,400
when he was in India dark by mb a-- is

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01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:39,950
the name of the facility he was working

1669
01:26:45,370 --> 01:26:43,430
at and in india i believe it stands for

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01:26:47,650 --> 01:26:45,380
David Anderson research partners and

1671
01:26:50,530 --> 01:26:47,660
associates I don't think it's I think

1672
01:26:53,890 --> 01:26:50,540
it's a quasi-government thing mm-hmm the

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01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:53,900
biggest labs and time travel are in near

1674
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,360
Mumbai so anyway this was uh I had it on

1675
01:27:04,750 --> 01:27:01,520
my website it disappeared off my website

1676
01:27:06,490 --> 01:27:04,760
I didn't take it off and I put it in the

1677
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:06,500
book and he said that that patent had

1678
01:27:12,729 --> 01:27:10,610
been sequestered in other words it's not

1679
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:12,739
accessible you can't look at us anymore

1680
01:27:17,130 --> 01:27:15,110
but it has the whole patent filing is

1681
01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:17,140
right there and see it in the book

1682
01:27:26,380 --> 01:27:23,510
because there has been very poor

1683
01:27:30,190 --> 01:27:26,390
reactions to his release of his

1684
01:27:32,020 --> 01:27:30,200
information certainly by certain key

1685
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:32,030
people in the UFO community who are

1686
01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:35,600
really working for satanists as was

1687
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:37,910
exposed by Douglas Dietrich and some of

1688
01:27:45,580 --> 01:27:41,930
his radio shows and interviews and

1689
01:27:47,530 --> 01:27:45,590
YouTube's and New York New York whole

1690
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:47,540
community isn't what TV and I mean

1691
01:27:51,490 --> 01:27:49,130
almost nothing is what people think it

1692
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:51,500
is but basically these people react very

1693
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:54,890
poorly to dr. David Anderson and his

1694
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:59,600
work so what is this what is this it's

1695
01:28:03,550 --> 01:28:01,040
it really gets to the point of

1696
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:03,560
ridiculousness and insanity and this is

1697
01:28:09,310 --> 01:28:06,320
something that though what I'm hoping

1698
01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:09,320
will dissipate over the next six to

1699
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:12,560
eight months as we move it through 2015

1700
01:28:16,660 --> 01:28:15,050
so that's the current project that I'm

1701
01:28:20,890 --> 01:28:16,670
in the midst of I also published a

1702
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:20,900
quarterly newsletter and they comes out

1703
01:28:26,740 --> 01:28:23,810
every quarter with the equinoxes and the

1704
01:28:29,140 --> 01:28:26,750
solstices and that's what I'm working on

1705
01:28:31,390 --> 01:28:29,150
currently that's fantastic you know I

1706
01:28:34,510 --> 01:28:31,400
hate to say this but we are all out of

1707
01:28:36,370 --> 01:28:34,520
time I want to thank you Peter moon and

1708
01:28:38,770 --> 01:28:36,380
I hope you'll agree to come back again

1709
01:28:40,300 --> 01:28:38,780
sometime because I'm sure there's a

1710
01:28:43,330 --> 01:28:40,310
whole host of things that we never even

1711
01:28:44,740 --> 01:28:43,340
got to I'd be out we just touched

1712
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:44,750
scratched the surface on many different

1713
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:46,810
topics there a

1714
01:28:51,090 --> 01:28:48,970
I hope we get another chance and that

1715
01:28:52,380 --> 01:28:51,100
that would be really nice I want to

1716
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:52,390
invite people again to my website

1717
01:28:58,110 --> 01:28:54,850
digital Montauk com where they can

1718
01:29:00,180 --> 01:28:58,120
access the free podcasts on the subject

1719
01:29:02,970 --> 01:29:00,190
of remote viewing there's to another one

1720
01:29:05,850 --> 01:29:02,980
coming up and also sky books usa.com if

1721
01:29:08,190 --> 01:29:05,860
they would like to purchase any of the

1722
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:08,200
books that i've done emma is Amazon as

1723
01:29:13,500 --> 01:29:11,590
well and kindle great thanks thanks

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01:29:14,820 --> 01:29:13,510
everybody for joining us hope you'll be

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01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:14,830
here with me next week for another

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01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:17,470
another edition of night vision radio if